Корабли коллеги ALVAMA

[GromoBoy]

Небезызвестный коллега ALVAMA из Нидерландов решил расширить своё присутствие на нашем форуме. Создаю тему специально для его рисунков. Думаю, дальше он будет постить сюда сам

Вот советский линкор по одному из нереализованных проектов 30-х годов:

[Doctor Haider]

Вот советский линкор по одному из нереализованных проектов 30-х годов:

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Ага, это самый ранний проект, калька с "Нельсона"

[Prinz Eugen]

Вот советский линкор по одному из нереализованных проектов 30-х годов:

Похож...КБ-4, 1936 год.

[ALVAMA]

Привет друзья я работаю над чертежами более русский, и я обратил американо-дизайн тоже. , а мой друг обратить UP-41 итальянского дизайна

and updated:

Russian Battleship Design Pr.21 KB-4 1936, indeed yes

[kinhito]

Не слишком ли короткая авиационная палуба?

[GromoBoy]

Не слишком ли короткая авиационная палуба?

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Взлёт с катапульт, а для посадки хватит.

[kinhito]

Сомнительно как-то. Хотя, конечно, многое от самолёта зависит. :)

[Prinz Eugen]

американо-дизайн тоже.

Визуально корабль довольно сильно "ужат" по длине по сравнению с проектом "Гиббс & Кокс"...

[Граф Цеппелин]

Можно было бы удлинить полетную палубу, применив 2 4-орудийные башни!

[Prinz Eugen]

Dear ALVAMA, I suggest you to write your posts in English.

So it will be easier for all.

[ALVAMA]

Yea If you guys I don't have any against it I'll post tomorrow in English :)

[ALVAMA]

New Vessel, for Peru

[ALVAMA]

Netherlands, 1913-15 Defence Dutch East Indie

[Олег]

Netherlands, 1913-15 Defence Dutch East Indie

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I see this is real pre-WW1 dutch project. As for me, bilding time would be far longer.

[ALVAMA]

You could write Russian, that won't we the problem for me, it just replay back in Russian...

Basic, In the real-life History the Dutch planned three Battleships for serving in the far East against the power of overseas like Japan and so on. After lots of money problems with plans were not really cheap, so they scrap it from the list. There are a few drawings Like from Viskers England, German ones Like Germania Yard, and Blohm&Voss. But bad detailed and small, My idea was to mix all the designs and make something with it, this have been the result. I hope you guys Like it though.

yea the time is for the plan not for the building of the vessels, that will indeed take longer like up to 1918 or 1919 around that!

[Ostgott]

New Vessel, for Peru

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Latina "pocket-battleship"?

[ALVAMA]

Latina "pocket-battleship"?

Her is the SpringSharp:

Almirante Villar, Indian designed Peruvian light battleship laid down 1936

Almirante Villar laid down 1936

Almirante Guise cancelled, never laid down

Displacement:

22,800 t light; 23,985 t standard; 25,944 t normal; 27,510 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

742.30 ft / 721.78 ft x 82.02 ft x 27.89 ft (normal load)

226.25 m / 220.00 m x 25.00 m x 8.50 m

Armament:

8 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (2x4 guns), 865.70lbs / 392.68kg shells, 1936 Model

Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)

on centreline ends, evenly spread

8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1936 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring

8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (4x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1936 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on side, evenly spread

16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1936 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts

16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1936 Model

Machine guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts

Weight of broadside 7,798 lbs / 3,537 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 469.16 ft / 143.00 m 10.86 ft / 3.31 m

Ends: Unarmoured

Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:

1.57" / 40 mm 469.16 ft / 143.00 m 25.59 ft / 7.80 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 11.8" / 300 mm

2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.18" / 30 mm

3rd: 1.18" / 30 mm - -

4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

5th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 13.78" / 350 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Geared drive, 4 shafts, 127,346 shp / 95,000 Kw = 32.03 kts

Range 15,000nm at 12.00 kts (Bunkerage = 3,525 tons)

Complement:

1,021 - 1,328

Cost:

?11.162 million / $44.650 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 975 tons, 3.8 %

Armour: 8,062 tons, 31.1 %

- Belts: 2,540 tons, 9.8 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 700 tons, 2.7 %

- Armament: 1,430 tons, 5.5 %

- Armour Deck: 3,133 tons, 12.1 %

- Conning Tower: 260 tons, 1.0 %

Machinery: 3,573 tons, 13.8 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,040 tons, 38.7 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,144 tons, 12.1 %

Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 0.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

28,181 lbs / 12,783 Kg = 32.6 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 3.5 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10

Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.4 m

Roll period: 16.3 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.550

Length to Beam Ratio: 8.80 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 30.79 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 29.86 ft / 9.10 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 22.31 ft / 6.80 m

- Mid (50 %): 22.31 ft / 6.80 m

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 22.31 ft / 6.80 m

- Stern: 22.31 ft / 6.80 m

- Average freeboard: 22.91 ft / 6.98 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.2 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 179.0 %

Waterplane Area: 43,014 Square feet or 3,996 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 157 lbs/sq ft or 769 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.97

- Longitudinal: 1.37

- Overall: 1.00

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

[ALVAMA]

Here a drawing made by me and my dad

Aleksandre

Our blog http://warshipsresearch.web-log.nl

[kinhito]

Hoe zit het met een kleine Fluddeckkreuzer? :victory:

[ALVAMA]

Russian aircraftcarrier 'Komsomolets' from 1927

She was a former training ship but her fitting out as a aircraft carrier was never realized. Displacement was 12.000 ton standaard by a length of 143.2 meter. Her maximum speed was 15 knots and she room enough for 42 aereoplanes. Her armament consisted of 16-10.2cm guns and 10-4cm guns.

[Staryi_prapor]

Коллеги, вынужден заострить Ваше внимание на одном моменте - увы, но не все владеют английским. :drinks:

[ALVAMA]

Русский aircraftcarrier 'Комсомолец "в 1927 году

Она была бывшей учебным судном, но ее оснащение, как авианосец не был реализован. Перемещение было 12,000 тонны Standaard в длину 143,2 метра. Ее максимальная скорость составляет 15 узлов, и она достаточно места для 42 aereoplanes. Ее вооружение состояло из 16-10.2cm орудий и 10-4 см пушек.

[kinhito]

Russian aircraftcarrier 'Komsomolets' from 1927

Ze? Этот?

http://img293.imageshack.us/f/shot0036.jpg/

[ALVAMA]

Я думаю, что это другой

[ALVAMA]

Hi Guys, Merry X'mas and a Happy new year!! Have a good time over there!