Корабли от Алвамы

[Doctor Haider]

«Tsushima» Spb, Admiralty works 4.09.1908 - 27.05.1910 – 21.10.1912

«Dazhaleth» Spb, Admiralty works 1.05.1909 - 30.03.1911 – 1.06.1913

«Port-Arthur» Spb, Baltic works 7.09.1908 - 31.05.1910 – 21.10.1912

«Thieling» Spb, Baltic works 5.05.1909 - 12.04.1911 – 1.06.1913

The Spb is for Saint-Petersburg

The specs (calculated by SpringSharp):

Displacement light 22 611 tonns, 24 350 normal, 25 728 tonns full.

Dimensions: 169,00 м x 29,00 м x 8,85 / 9,17 м.

Powerplant: 4 Parsons turbines, 24 Yarrow boilers mixed coal/oil, 4 screws, maximum power 32 000 hp, max speed 21 knots., max range 5000 mils/12 knots, max fuel 2 180/968 tonns coal/oil.

Armor: main belt 280 мм+38 мм rear armoured bulkhead, ends 152 мм, upper belt 178 мм, beam bulkheads 203 мм, underwate protection bulkhead 38 мм, upper armoured deck 25.4 мм, main armoured deck 51 мм, main deck slopes 51 мм, lower deck 12.7 мм, conning tower 305 мм; Main turrets: face 280 мм, sides 178 мм, back 305 мм, roof 125 мм, barbettes 254 мм. Secondary guns casemates 125 мм.

Armament: 4х3 305/52 (105 rounds per gun), 16х1 120/50 (250 rounds per gun), 4х1 75/50 anti-air., 2х1 37/30 Maxim automatic

Complement: 1242.

[Cobra]

Док давайте кинем ссылку на справочник Наш, с вашим комментарием на аглицкой мове, откуда сие все пошло?!

[Doctor Haider]

Боюсь, там с электронным переводчиком делать нечего

For ALVAMA: the project I mentioned above is named the "World of Tzar Michael 7" or МЦМ7 in Russian. This project is developing for 3 years and currently achivied the year 1914. The POD is the murder of Nicholas II early in 1905 and accession of his brother Michael (as regent, the emperor from 1910). In this world the Russia achivied the victory the Russo-Japan war (challenging and costly though).

This is the reference book of the Russian Imperial Navy as of 1914 made by the members of this forum: http://files.mail.ru/W2JUIE (to download wait while the clock spinning and the diskette icon appears instead it, then click on the icon)

[ALVAMA]

Ok Thanks, I'll be working on that vessel:)

[Doctor Haider]

Thank you a lot! Don't hesistate to ask questions about the ship or any other vessels from the МЦМ7.

The battlecarrier slowly gains a flesh on its bones... :sorry:

[ALVAMA]

I'm still working on your ship!!

But first my web-log has a new article about Dutch and Russian vessels at Russia with a drawing of ink!!!

http://warshipsresearch.web-log.nl/warship...dutch-ship.html

I'm sure you'll like it

[Doctor Haider]

Interesting. Thank you!

[ALVAMA]

Nee, bedankt!

[Vova7]

What about on-line lesson of ship's drawing? Let's organize some kind off on-line presentation... i think it will be interesting not only for me..

[ALVAMA]

[Vova7]

erhaps I could find something for you

i meen YOUR lesson by ip-phone for example ;)

[Doctor Haider]

how about this

Magnificent!

But what does that "P" I see on the elvator mean? If the "P" is for "Pobeda" it should be "П" cause the battlecarrier is Russian.

[boroda]

Блестяще просто класс. Я так понимаю что таким был американский проект для нашего линкора. Единственное, коллега не может определится с флагом. Корабль одновременно имеет и андреевский и советский флаги.

[Doctor Haider]

@ALVAMA

As the boroda noted above your're also mistakenly used both the St. Andrew ensign (on turrets) and the soviet naval ensign. The St. Andrew newer be used in Soviet time on ships.

[ALVAMA]

THANKS!!!!!

I have draw it for a guy Who Only like to have an Cross on it, I wanted to have a Soviet one, so Don't look at the Stars, they are wrong

[Doctor Haider]

Ok.

В общем, коллега говорит, что он в курсе, что кресты со звездами не сочетаются, но таково было желание того человека, по заказу которого рисовался этот кораблик.

[Cobra]

Кстати насчет ГИБРИДА, кто нибудь мне объяснит на кой ему еще в корме гидросамолеты, катапульты и прочий Тюнинг.............???

[Leopard]

Кстати насчет ГИБРИДА, кто нибудь мне объяснит на кой ему еще в корме гидросамолеты, катапульты и прочий Тюнинг.............???

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Это скорее для красоты ;)

[boroda]

Кстати насчет ГИБРИДА, кто нибудь мне объяснит на кой ему еще в корме гидросамолеты, катапульты и прочий Тюнинг.............???

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Так просто было в РИ проекте.

[ALVAMA]

There are a few new Russian articles at our weblog inclused a drawing from my dad.

I hope I can finnist the Russian draw for RI soon, Try this week, she is very difrencult

http://www.warshipsresearch.web-log.nl/

[Doctor Haider]

Hmm. Why is she so difficult?

[Vova7]

в тему из за английского названия сыпется спам. Ее нужно переименовать...

[boroda]

DingYuen laid down 1881

Водоизмещение:

10,210 t light; 10,812 t standard; 12,270 t normal; 13,436 t full load

Размерения:

Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)

(429.79 ft / 419.95 ft) x 55.77 ft (Bulges 68.90 ft) x (25.59 / 28.02 ft)

(131.00 m / 128.00 m) x 17.00 m (Bulges 21.00 m) x (7.80 / 8.54 m)

Вооружение:

4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 25.0 cal guns - 731.32lbs / 331.72kg shells, 150 per gun

Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1881 Model

1 x 2-gun mount on centreline, forward deck forward

1 x 2-gun mount on centreline amidships (forward deck aft)

1 raised mount

12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 101.30lbs / 45.95kg shells, 150 per gun

Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1881 Model

10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread

10 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in any sea

2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft

1 raised mount

12 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.06lbs / 5.47kg shells, 150 per gun

Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1881 Model

12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 4,286 lbs / 1,944 kg

Броня:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 292.91 ft / 89.28 m 16.44 ft / 5.01 m

Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 127.00 ft / 38.71 m 9.71 ft / 2.96 m

Main Belt covers 107% of normal length

- Hull Bulges:

0.00" / 0 mm 292.91 ft / 89.28 m 25.43 ft / 7.75 m

Броня орудий:

Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 12.6" / 320 mm 4.21" / 107 mm 12.6" / 320 mm

2nd: 9.84" / 250 mm - 5.91" / 150 mm

3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm - -

- Protected deck - multiple decks:

For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm

Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 13.78" / 350 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Maшины:

Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,

Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6,811 ihp / 5,081 Kw = 15.00 kts

Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 2,624 tons (100% coal)

Complement:

582 - 757

Cтоимость:

?0.768 million / $3.073 million

скрыть

[Vova7]

страсть какая-то... в 1881 году у китайцев откуда-то возьмутся французско-русские башни образца 1901 года... все-таки сильная трава в этом вес-ворлде..

[Doctor Haider]

В цитадели нет места для машин (кормовой траверс стоит практически сразу за трубами).